If Bumrah doesn’t get you, then Shami must

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If Bumrah doesn’t get you, then Shami must

We review the India v England match in Lucknow – and chat about the other themes emerging in the World Cup.

Talking points: 

  • The brutal simplicity of Mohammad Shami
  • Jasprit Bumrah: the bowler with the joystick
  • Rohit Sharma: the ultimate problem-solver
  • England’s awful batting slump
  • Joe Root lbw Bumrah 0
  • Ben Stokes – reckless or calculated?
  • Pakistan’s problem with no big hitting and no quality spin
  • New Zealand losing with respectability
  • The furore over umpire’s call
  • Bangladesh’s forgettable World Cup campaign


Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo



  • World Cup weekly review – Kartikeya Date – Cricktingview Substack
  • This is Mohammad Shami’s World Cup – Andrew Fidel Fernando – ESPNcricinfo
  • Sky Sports Cricket podcast – Nasser Hussain and Eoin Morgan dissect England’s loss – Spotify
  • Wasay & Iffi – YouTube
  • What we talk about when we talk about umpiring – 81allout podcast
  • Do we judge umpires on ridiculously high standards? – 81allout podcast
  • Buy War Minus the Shooting by Mike Marqusee – Amazon
  • War Minus the Shooting – Revisiting the 1996 World Cup through a classic book – 81allout podcast
  • Buy Cricket Beyond the Bazaar by Mike Coward – Amazon


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5 thoughts on “If Bumrah doesn’t get you, then Shami must”

  1. Really enjoyed the podcast! The rational and largely non-partisan analysis is refreshing. As a younger cricket fan who’s learning to appreciate the sport better everyday, I am very grateful to you all. Reading Kartikeya’s live tweets during the match has become an education. I’m still figuring stuff out (like what an ‘Indian length’ is, @Sid), but the journey’s been great. Cheers!

    1. Thanks a lot. We are glad you enjoyed the discussion. Every pitch demands the bowler to figure out the best length to trouble the batters. In England, it could be full and on off stump, especially when the ball swings a lot. The batter goes for the drive and often edges to the keeper or slips. In Australia and South Africa (where there is not as much swing and pitches have more bounce) it’s more ‘back of a length’, so that the batters are unsure whether to get forward and drive or move back and pull. Watch where Cummins and Hazlewood pitch next time they play in Aus – you will see plenty of tentative prods where the ball takes the edge. In India – many of the pitches don’t have as much bounce as Aus and SA – and the ball doesn’t swing as much as in England – so bowlers like Shami figure out the spot where the batter is confused whether to drive or defend and is eventually beaten by the seam movement off the pitch. If you saw the Kusal Mendis dismissal in Mumbai – Siraj angled the ball in and pitched it on a length where the batter is confused whether to attack or defend. And the ball then straightens off the seam to hit the top of off stump. That is a classic Indian length – not too full and not too short. Just perfectly synced with the bounce on the pitch and assistance offered.

  2. I have only recently started hearing the podcast ,thoroughly enjoying each of them and finding time to go to the older ones also.Like the value each of the main 4 crew members adds to the show. Just to know how did you guys meet each other .Seems like you guys know each other for atleast a decade.If any past episodes talks about that ,just mention the episode title.Thanks

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